Tulpa.info - metaphysics

well, we actually think that non-physicality would be a logical contradiction, just like supernatural (if it could be proven, then it would be natural)

vesper

I dunno if this is the right channel for this question but is it possible to confuse tulpa thoughts with spirit thoughts if like, you're clairaudient or get thoughts from guides?

Does anyone happen to know this? If not it's fine, it was just a random question

Disclaimer: I don’t actually have clairaudience & I am not and never have been in contact with any spirits. I would assume yes, because if the voice sounds like your inner voice and you have a young tulpa with a voice that hasn’t been distinguished yet, then it will get confusing. I assume you may be able to tell the difference through other ways - divination (ask the spirit guide, or ask if it was clairaudience), asking your tulpa, and if both fail then use your best judgement. However if the spirit voice is noticeably different - either in tone or energetic feel - you can probably discern between them. Same if your tulpa has a differentiated voice. (edited)

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/6405431/f74-tiktok-trend-explained/

1:31 AM

What’s your take on that guys?

Sounds very interesting

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Disclaimer: I don’t actually have clairaudience & I am not and never have been in contact with any spirits. I would assume yes, because if the voice sounds like your inner voice and you have a young tulpa with a voice that hasn’t been distinguished yet, then it will get confusing. I assume you may be able to tell the difference through other ways - divination (ask the spirit guide, or ask if it was clairaudience), asking your tulpa, and if both fail then use your best judgement. However if the spirit voice is noticeably different - either in tone or energetic feel - you can probably discern between them. Same if your tulpa has a differentiated voice. (edited)

Ah, thanks for replying. I can't tell my tulpa's voice from my thought voice just yet, I'm unsure on how to do so

Is your tulpa vocal at all, as far as you are aware? If they are, it’s just a matter of introducing different types voices to them and waiting for them to either just differentiate or to pick a voice they like. I suppose you could assign them a voice too, but that could change as they develop. If not, work on practicing vocality. There’s some good guides on the forum to help encourage it, and you could probably also look up past convos about vocality on this discord as well.

spicyorange

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/6405431/f74-tiktok-trend-explained/

Interesting for sure, but I don’t think it’s actually true, mostly because it sounds like your average creepy story and it sounds like it’s based off the backrooms. Also, how do you know what happens in a place no one can ever escape? You can’t - someone either escaped or it’s made up. Despite that it would 100% be a fun horror movie plot. Would watch it, lol.

I feel like it'd be one on those movies that mess with your head and get all confusing

Those are the best ones!

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Is your tulpa vocal at all, as far as you are aware? If they are, it’s just a matter of introducing different types voices to them and waiting for them to either just differentiate or to pick a voice they like. I suppose you could assign them a voice too, but that could change as they develop. If not, work on practicing vocality. There’s some good guides on the forum to help encourage it, and you could probably also look up past convos about vocality on this discord as well.

She isn't vocal tho I do try my best to assume most thoughts are hers and I think she's said some surprising words I didn't even know I knew (idk if that's possible) (edited)

You share the same brain - so if she said a word you didn’t know it’s either a word you forgot that she pulled from your subconscious or it wasn’t her.

Ah, I mean, a few days ago I heard the word ravenous and I didn't know the meaning and I actually didn't eat that much that day so I had a snack

Oh, interesting

2:16 AM

Is it possible you could have heard the word and picked it up from any videos or media you’ve watched?

2:16 AM

Mostly just curious lol

I don't think so

That’s interesting. I can’t say anything definitive on the subject, because I’m not in your head - but that’s probably not your tulpa, in that case. Because again, your tulpa shares the same brain as you - they won’t really know anything you don’t.

2:22 AM

Though it 100% is good practice to assume it’s your tulpa, because you don’t rlly wanna ignore them. It’s just a good rule to keep in mind, especially if you’re working with other entities or do have clairaudience. (edited)

2:23 AM

**not always

Ah alright, just thought I'd ask cause I always have random questions. I haven't really developed or worked on (if that's the word) my clairaudience yet and not sure I should tbh

Tbh I’d wait if you can, let your tulpa establish themself vocally and then move forward with it. It wouldn’t be too long of a wait unless you have issues in development, anyway.

Yeah, I'll definitely work more on them cause it's hard for me to focus on them most the time (even tho I got no life)

Yeah, makes sense. Meditation also helps with focus, do you think that might work for you?

2:29 AM

Focus issues were the bane of my existence, and they’re coming back because I haven’t meditated for a few days whoops—

I honestly always hate when people mention meditation cause I feel it doesn't work for me but I could try again

Ah, fair enough. It’s not for everyone, definitely. Some things help, some things don’t, depends on the person.

Yeah I understand, but I'll try again. I can usually easily clear my mind but then my intrusive thoughts come back

Don’t be too hard on yourself! Also, not sure if you know but it’s actually ridiculously hard if not impossible to properly clear your mind while focusing on clearing your mind.

I mean, I can actually not think for like, a couple seconds, idk if that's normal

Focusing on outside noises helps me clear my mind, and even then I still get the occasional thought. Focusing on a single thing, image, or thought is generally best, and when you catch yourself straying from the thought just calmly bring yourself back to it. Doing it in small increments of time (2 or 5 minutes works for a starting point). (edited)

vesper

I mean, I can actually not think for like, a couple seconds, idk if that's normal

Idk either. Probably, considering the internet.

2:37 AM

My mind likes to clear itself now, been meditating for a while so I can’t really tell you what’s normal or what’s not. I will say that I remember thinking that my brain is incapable of shutting up and likes to run a mile a minute, so take that as you will.

2:37 AM

**when I was younger

Ah, my brain literally never shuts up and it's so annoying xD

Lol

2:38 AM

Oh wait I just realized I misinterpreted your message—

2:39 AM

This is why I don’t type at 10:39pm. (edited)

2:39 AM

I think being able to stop thoughts for a short period of time is normal, lol.

Ohh xD and alright

vesper

Ah, thanks for replying. I can't tell my tulpa's voice from my thought voice just yet, I'm unsure on how to do so

You can tell tho, if you couldnt why would you think your tulpa is talking at all.

I don't really know what to say to that. I know they're taking but my intrusive thoughts just make it hard for me

its easy, if the intrusive thought matches your expectations for your tulpa, assume it is your tulpa, if it dosnt assume it was not

I think telepathically sharing thoughts between tulpa clones is an interesting idea. Maybe first people could gather any anecdotes of anything like that they have, like maybe if Human1-Tulpa1 is about to communicate with Human2-Tulpa1, and coincidentally Human2 starts thinking about Human1-Tulpa1. Then you could do experiments to see if it's repeatable in controlled conditions. (edited)

damn I always forget its the metaphysics

4:10 AM

ofc tulpa cloning is a thing (edited)

dang i was searching for physic's server for class 9 and here i am

I just thought, I know tulpa's are people too but are they also able to speak and ask source/universe for things too? etc

Don't see why not Even if tulpa weren't absolutely equal to hosts they would still be able to borrow the host's "ask source" pass

I just thought, I know tulpa's are people too but are they also able to speak and ask source/universe for things too? etc

@vesper - jump If a tulpa can meditate or introspect they should be able to do any mystical act that's been designed for hosts aswell

Ahh, I understand, just thought I'd ask, ty tho ^^

Hiya

Hi

What's up?

Question, does or has anyone ever used or still uses a pendulum to communicate with your tulpa? I've been using one recently and because my ego is annoying af, it's sometimes hard to hear her so my pendulum said it was okay to communicate with them that way too

@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk actually made an entire mini guide based on using a pendulum for tulpamancy

vesper

Question, does or has anyone ever used or still uses a pendulum to communicate with your tulpa? I've been using one recently and because my ego is annoying af, it's sometimes hard to hear her so my pendulum said it was okay to communicate with them that way too

https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431895537978048535/796424910867791872

Oh wow tyvm

@Gone Howdy! You mentioned having a Cerno tulpa, and then you lost contact with them?

Yes sir

You mentioned telepathy, is that like you focus on them and talk using your in-head voice?

Yes

2:04 AM

Mind 2 mind reas

2:04 AM

Read

That's interesting. When I talk to my headmates, I just call it mindvoice instead of telepathy.

Ah yes I just say telepath

When did you create Cerno?

6 months ago

Have you had trouble communicating before?

No idk why she left

2:07 AM

Probably for someone better I feel like that's the case

Ah, I see. I would consider this more metaphysical, I assume my headmates can't leave my head. However, I think this is when thinking of it as telepathy can be advantageous. If you're connected to Cerno, what would stop you from reaching out to them? Maybe you had a bad day and your connection is fuzzy, you can always try again (edited)

How

2:11 AM

Can I try again I tried saying cirno in my head

2:11 AM

No response

What happens if you imagine their form?

I see a ice fairy

Is it Cerno?

Yea

Cirno*

You want to wave at them? I'm sure they'll notice

Close my eyes?

Oh, I mean just think of the feeling of waving your hand. You can do it in-head or if you're comfortable in a private place literally

Visualizing is usually best

2:15 AM

Open or closed eyes is up to your preference, closed is most common

Can your tulpa cheat on you?

We believe that tulpas can't hide memories from you. In that sense, no, they cannot. Even if Cerno could hide things from you, if you're connected to them like this, wouldn't you be able to detect it if they did?

Idk

2:18 AM

Probably not

Why not?

Now I can imagine her

2:23 AM

Feels like she's holding on to me

How'd you hear about "tulpas"?

2:24 AM

If it was too off-handed, you might not be aware of the many guides we have on Tulpa.info

2:24 AM

Or specifically https://community.tulpa.info/forum/14-guides/

While I don't know much about magic or telepathy, it sounds like your experience is similar enough that it's similar to mindvoice. If you're tired or struggling, it can make it harder to talk to your tulpa. Intrusive/unwanted thoughts or fears can muck things up too. In short, it's okay if things are fuzzy or unclear. Giving it another try with a different angle or after a nap can help ^^

i miss my tulpa

@Gone Did you try reaching out to them again?

Ye